How Phaedrus drew on The Iliad

A documented line of influence: Plato demonstrably engaged Homer’s work. The commentary below is Gröblé’s, verbatim from each work’s page.

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On Phaedrus’s page

  • Plato treats the Iliad as the epic authority in the room — his dialogues quote it some 91 times, and the Phaedrus itself reworks a Homeric hexameter at 241d
  • Socrates's great palinode is set against Homer's telling of Helen: the Iliad is the version of the story he must take back
  • Come to the Phaedrus with Homer fresh and you feel the recantation — Plato wrestling with the poet who educated all of Greece

On The Iliad’s page

  • Homer was "the educator of Hellas," and Plato's dialogues quote the Iliad some 91 times — it's the epic authority his Socrates keeps reckoning with
  • In the Phaedrus, Plato sets Socrates's palinode against Homer's telling of Helen and even adapts a Homeric hexameter mid-dialogue
  • The Iliad is the inherited tradition Socrates must recant before he can speak rightly about love

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